Interview with Susanna, co-founder of the “Close the Borders” Movement.

A photo by David Grandmougin.

[NOTE: This interview is NOT part of The Hieno! Finland 100 series. Initially I thought it could be a potential interview response to be included, but decided against the inclusion because the response was too controversial.]

Today, we have Susanna from Rajat Kiinni! -Kansanliike/ “Close the borders” People’s movement to share with us her views on “What is Finnish-ness”. Because of the sensitive nature of this topic, this interview is heavily edited and the comments section is closed.


According to the Reporters without Borders 2016 World Press Ranking, Finland is ranked #No.1 in “freedom of expression”. Interviews-based news reporting is one of the most essential means whereby traditional and new media are able to contribute to the larger society in discussions pertaining to matters of public interest.

At The Hieno!, we strongly believe that with freedom of expression comes great responsibilities. The intention of publishing this interview is to give a context of how some Finns truly feel, while balancing the need to protect sensitive feelings. This perspective might also help inform the world as to what partly constitutes the popular support behind Finnish politicians such as Olli Immonen, and this view does represent at least the minority of the Finnish population.

Our purpose in publishing this is to show what “IS” in Finland 2016/2017. Many people will obviously have their views on what “should be“, but whatever your perspective is, this will not change what “is” for certain groups of people.

Highly-educated expats who once stayed in Finland for a long time like Dr. Rice has gently pointed out that there might well be a distinct difference between the “official” vs “real” Finland experienced by foreigners who have stayed here for some time. There are also various websites highlighting the existence of overt racism in Finland, for instance Stories of Intolerance and Migrant Tales (Read the interview of Migrant Tale’s founder Enrique interview here).

We would like to unequivocally emphasise once again that the act of publishing this heavily censored response does not mean endorsement of Susanna’s position or statements in any form. In addition, we have checked with the Finnish police, who has confirmed once again that there is nothing illegal in the following heavily-edited text and referred us to the benchmark case of Jerslid v Denmark.

Having said that, I fully understand the perspective that publishing sentiments like that might be seen as “promoting racism”. Let me state strongly that this was never of our intention. Because of the highly sensitive nature of this interview, the comment thread is also closed. Susanna has given her full permission to publish this heavily-edited piece as well.

We hope you read this interview with a critical mind and like to reiterate once again that publishing does not mean promotion or endorsement of Susanna’s world-view.

TH: Hello Susanna! Thank you for accepting our interview. Can you tell us more about yourself and what you do?

Susanna: I am the co-founder of the Rajat Kiinni! -Kansanliike people’s movement.

I am Finnish by blood as far as the church records go, hundreds of years if not millennia.

The Bolsheviks Reds took our family lands in Karelia in WW2. My grandfather never got over having to leave his ancestral lands and to shoot his farm animals.

He would have killed himself if he had not had a son.

I am a programmer by trade, excellent at it. I come from a White Guard family line, upper middle class. It is our tradition and my duty to fight for our fatherland.

I am a lifetime practitioner of martial arts. I am curious. I come from a natural science background so the concept of truth is extremely important to me. I have a family and my spouse is female. I’m a top programmer, by trade. I live in the countryside. The cities are becoming non-Finnish.

I am also a political activist fighting for the future of our Finnic, ethnic Finnish, children. I believe we’re at risk of losing our fatherland, our beautiful nature, our culture, our language and our very existence – that is – our kin, family – the ethnic Finnic blood lines.

I do all sorts of things to advance the Nationalist cause. I speak, I write, I make videos and sometimes pull some activist stunts. I do not belong to a political party. I was ejected from the left-leaning Itsenäisyyspuolue for National Socialism. That party has been overrun by the extreme left anarchist elements and by the Putinists.

TH: Finland is commonly said to be an “equal” society. Do you think it is really “equal”, or is there a distinct elite-commoner dichotomy?

Susanna: Historically we had four classes: the peasants, the churchmen, the bourgeoisie and the nobles. In the 19th century the priest class and peasants mostly opposed immigration, the bourgeoisie and the nobles mostly supported it.

The former were largely Finnish speakers, the latter largely Swedish speakers.

The priest class and the peasants resisted Jewish immigration from Russia for decades, but the upper classes eventually won that battle.

Nowadays, it’s largely the same: the elites disregard the fact that more Finns do not want the migrants in than do.

So, it is quite clear that the opinions of the masses do not account for much in this society.

We have to also remember that Finland has been under Swedish rule from 1250-1809 and under Russian rule from 1809-1917 and then under heavy Soviet Union influence from 1945-1992 and thereafter we’ve been kicked around by the European political-financial-cultural elites of the European Union.

Our true independence lasted from 1917-1945.

As it stands, we still, in a way, have the remnants of the Swedish bureaucracy which was not dismantled by the Russians. They just used it to advance their own agenda when we were under their rule. So, in a sense, Finland has always had and still does have a system that was originally devised for the rule of Finland as a province.

That is what they do today; the EU does what it will w/us and our so-called elites are just the henchmen for the European oligarchs. The European Commission is not even elected and instead our rulers are hand picked by the elites.

So no, there is no equality between the elites and the folk.

Our elites do the bidding of a class of foreign political and financial elites instead of ruling for the good of our people.

TH: Who do you think can and should define “Finnish-ness”? Please elaborate.

Susanna: I would not leave it to the Cosmopolitans and the Reds to define us. They would define us in a way that would allow for our bloodlines to go extinct.

I’d leave it to those who Finns accept as Finns, but this mostly means having Finnic bloodline. Finns, along w/the Estonians and Latvians are the “original” stock of Europe, genetically.

Finns are 85-95% proto-European and 5-15% proto-Asian.

Being Finnish means – for the most part – having a Finnic bloodline, speaking the Finnish language as your mother tongue and advancing it and teaching it to your children; being Finnish means valuing our history, our religions, our myths, our forests and our lakes; being Finnish means guarding and protecting the heritage of the Finnish/Finnic people and our fatherland.

TH: What is the one thing you are most proud of as a Finnish citizen?

Susanna: It means nothing to me. Being “a citizen” is a construct that was created by the ruling classes to control the cattle.

I am not “a Finnish citizen”. I am half Tavastian and half Karelian, a Finnic mutt.

I am not proud of being labeled, categorised and branded by the government that does not care about my people’s future.

The only thing I’m truly proud of, in relation to being Finnish, is that we’re still here.

There’s been a constant attempt by our beloved neighbouring tribes throughout the centuries to make us their servants.

At this time, we’re on the losing end, again, to globalists, this time.

We will fight back.

Either Nationalism rises again or we will be destroyed for good, but either way, if down we must go, down we go fighting and screaming – all the way.

TH: How about the one thing you are not so proud of as a Finnish citizen? Do you think change is possible, and if so, how do you suggest change to be implemented?

Susanna: We need to get the Reds out of power.

They are not only in the political parties, but also in the 3rd sector and in the state and municipal bureaucracies as well as the newspapers.

We really need to get rid of this unpatriotic influence that is undermining not only our economy, but now, our very existence.

TH: Can you tell us the top 3 things/ traits you regard as “Finnish”, and why?

Susanna: Kalevala, Perkele, Sauna, Sisu and Sibelius are the things that instantly pop into mind. Working hard is also very Finnish.

  • Kalevala, because it is our National Epic. It needs no further explanation.
  • Perkele, because he’s our overgod, Ukko Ylijumala. The “curse” Ukko Perkele Jumalauta is actually a prayer. It basically means Ukko Perkele (our overgod) Jumal’auta (god help us!).

The desert god worshiping Christian religious imperialists have tried to destroy our original religion and largely succeeded in it.

However, some of us still remember…

  • I explained about Sisu earlier on and Sauna is an ancient tradition and it also has mythological meanings.

Sibelius composed Finlandia – which was originally called Impromptu – because under the Russian rule it could not be called what it was – and is: a furious call for all Finns to fight for our independence.

TH: Do you think Finns are passive aggressive? If yes, do you think it is a good or bad thing? Please elaborate.

Susanna: Oh yes, extremely.😀

We’ve been under foreign occupation for centuries, so we’ve created an art form from passive aggressive resistance.

Finns passively resist for a very long time and if this does not yield needed results, an explosion can come about quite suddenly, seemingly out of nowhere, because the anger is there. It is just hidden from plain sight.

I think this explains why seemingly in six months in 1918 Finland exploded into the bloodiest civil war Europe has seen.

In Finland things go under the radar for a very long time because people hide their anger and resist passively.

TH: What is the one 100 year-old birthday wish you would make for Finland, since 2017 is Finland’s 100 years of independence?

Susanna: I wish for our country to be independent again. We are under foreign rule.

The Merkels, Soroses and Clintons are deciding what will become of us, not the Finns.

We hope you have gotten some information from today’s interview with Susanna from Rajat Kiinni! -Kansanliike/ “Close the borders” people’s movement.